Greetings, I have been looking at several pistols that I could have deactivated here, some have been good options and some have not. I have viewed the listing of this pistol numerous times and it looks 'right as rain' to me, but with this being a forum and there being many experts out there with piles of knowledge on certain subjects.I was hoping to get a few opinions on this pistol. It is a german marked Hungarian Femaru Model 37. The overall appearance and condition of it is good but the finish is very poor, this is actually one of the reasons I am in favour of this piece.
I will check this thread over the next few days and will make this purchase if everything sounds good with the opinions I receive here. Like I said, it looks 'right as rain' to me, but figured it doesn't hurt to have a few more opinions on such.nice to hear what others have to say. Here are the markings that have been described in the description: Caliber is 7.65mm 4 inch (98mm) barrel 8 shot magazine serrated wood grips proofmarks serial number matching on all numbered parts including the barrel jhv 41 Looking forward to hearing some feedback, thanks for your interest in this. Ronnie Fry, Thank you for your input. I can see where you are coming from in regards to purchasing one in better condition.I have been looking around since I had posted this and have came across a few really nice examples. Only problem is, I live in Canada and there doesn't seem to be many of these around here.or at least that I know of. Another thing that is not so great, is how these are under the class of 'prohibited' here.I cannot get such a license as they don't grant them anymore to anyone.
Basically, if a guy has it.great. If a guy doesn't have it.he is not able to get one. Not the best, I know.but that is why I am trying to find one and have it deactivated at least. The website that you have given here, they sure have some excellent pieces from time to time.I am always looking around and have visited this website several times. If only I was living in the states, I swear I would buy a handful of these little wartime pistols! I have been on the hunt here in Canada for several types to have deactivated, but haven't had any real luck. There always seems to be some type of problem with them.
No matter if they are to be deactivated, I still believe it's normal to want them matching and original. Quite a large number of people here disagree with me. They figure it is going to be deactivated, why does it matter if they are reworked or mismatched? I just feel better as a buyer, knowing that the piece is all good. I have been thinking about another piece that this Cdn dealer has, maybe I should go ahead and ask what you think of the following idea. Out of 5, what would you think if I put a deactivated Model 1934 Beretta in with perhaps, a tropical Heer display?
I thought it was a fairly cool idea. Anyhow, thanks for your time, I'll try to keep you posted on my findings here! Duff- Thank YOU for your considered reply. I am at fault in taking for granted the 'freedom' that we now enjoy in the US. Hopefully we will continue to benefit from that. Tho I have my doubts.
You explain that if 'deacting' a pistol, it doesen't matter if matching or not. I do not completely disagree. But I will give you some advice that my 'mentor' gave me many years ago. 'Buy the best quality you can possibly afford, and you will never have to apologize for condition when you want to sell.' This has stood me in good stead thru the years. I would only compromise this if the model is extremely rare in ANY condition.
As to a Beretta in a Tropical Heer setting, - Go for it!! There were plenty of Italians in the African Campaigns. Ronnie Fry / Douglas Jr. Thanks again for the opinions and information! It's certainly no fun not being able to obtain the license for these smaller pistols! I sure wish they allowed such still.
It's also no fun having to buy them deactivated, but I figure if it means me getting to have them after all.then it's worth it! I still look for matching / original examples.despite the fact that it is just a display gun.it just feels better knowing it's 100% correct. I appreciate the positive remark towards the thought of the Italian Model 1934 pistol.I just don't know much about the magazines and what they should be marked, etc.for a correct marking for the Italian army. I've done a fair bit of research and found that there can be several markings on these, ranging from the Italian Army / Italian Air Force / Export / German. My next step would have to be finding out more on the mags.
I've got some decent old reference books on firearms, but nothing is really in depth on the magazines. Anyhow, here is the link to the beretta: And just for kicks.here are a few more I was looking at: Thanks once again for all efforts placed into this thread, it's greatly appreciated.
Femaru 37m Serial Numbers Lookup
Ronnie Fry, Cool.thanks for the compliments! I'm trying to be somewhat original when it comes to which of the smaller pistols I'd like deactivated. The beretta m1934 is a decent looking shaped pistol I think, quite different than most of the German designs, thought it would be a nice touch to a tropical display. The Sauer 38 sure has a nice shape, this is one type I would definately like to have working! I'm a fan of the CZ pistols, although their design is quite different, especially the model 1938. The M1922 pistols are nice as well, I like the German marked ones due to the finish being different than on a Belgian example.
If I remember correctly, I can own the Belgian ones but not the German marked ones.I would have to have those deactivated. It has to do with the caliber. Douglas Jr, Hi, I thought the grips looked unusual but wasn't aware they were of post war manufacture.thank you for the note on that. If you like the M1922 pistols a lot.there are a few more on that website, I believe there is a Belgian one and a Serbian marked one as well. The Serbian one sounds quite rare.never heard of another. There are several really good places in the United States for firearms, I know of a few websites that carry some really, really nice pieces.
I am applying for two different firearm licenses here, one to be able to purchase rifles and the other to purchase regular sized handguns. Once I have these, I am definately going to pay for a dealer here to import in a few pieces from the states for me.they are awesome! It's better to have a dealer bring in such rather than an individual, as the process is quicker from what I hear, and there a lot less hassles. Combining pdfs into one document. I will be moving in the next month, so I haven't sent my papers away just yet.have to wait and get settled first. If you or Ronnie Fry are in the market for anything, feel free to ask me as you two have helped me out greatly here.I know where some really nice firearms are on websites, I look around all the time!
Sold For: $1,856 LSB#: 140314BB02 Make: Femaru in Hungary Model: Model 37 Serial Number: 38508 Year of Manufacture: 1941 Caliber:.32 ACP (7.65mm Browning) Action Type: Single Action, Semi-Automatic with Removable Magazine Markings: The left side of the slide is marked “P. 7,65.”, an Eagle holding a Swastika marked Globe and “jhv / 41”. The left side of the slide at the front and the left side of the frame are marked “38508”. Barrel Length: 2 7/8” Sights / Optics: The front sight is a short blade dovetailed into the top of the slide. The rear sight is a “V” notch at the back of the slide. The top of the slide has a thin flat finely checkered rib to reduce glare. Stock Configuration & Condition: The grips are walnut with vertical serrations.
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There is some darkening in some of the grooves that could be oil staining. There are only some light handling marks. The grips rate in about Excellent overall condition. Type of Finish: The finish is a highly polished blue except for the rib on the slide which has a matte finish. Finish Originality: All Original Bore Condition: The bore is bright and the rifling is sharp.
There is no erosion in the bore. Overall Condition: This handgun retains about 98% of its metal finish. There is thinning on the front edges of the slide and a few minor handling marks on the slide and frame. The left side of the frame also shows scratches in the finish around the slide release.
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The edges of the safety and slide release show minor thinning. The serrations on the slide, hammer and safety are sharp.
The grip screw is sharp and the markings are clear. Overall, this handgun rates in about Excellent condition.
Mechanics: The action functions correctly. This pistol has both a manual safety and a grip safety. It does not have a magazine disconnect.
We did not fire this handgun. Box, Paperwork & Accessories: This pistol comes with a total of two blued magazines and a period canvas and leather holster. The magazines are blued with steel followers and long serrated finger extensions. The floorplates are marked “P. Mod 37” and “38508” on the extensions.
Hungarian Femaru
Both magazines show minimal wear with thinning on the front edge of the magazine floorplate and a spot of surface loss on the floorplate from the magazine release. They are in about Excellent condition. The holster is green canvas with a border of brown leather around the rear edge and the top, with a leather top flap sewn to the underside surface at the top of the holster. There is a brown leather magazine pouch sewn to the outside surface of the holster and a steel stud is fastened next to it for securing the top flap via a strap sewn to the flaps outside surface. The inside of the top flap is marked in black ink “Nur fur Pistole 37M / (Ung.) Kal. 7,65mm” (Only for Pistol 37M in 7,65mm). The holster has a single brown leather belt loop sewn to its underside surface.
The belt loop is marked “hsy / 1941 / Nazi Eagle”. There are markings at the bottom of the Eagle, but they are illegible.
We can’t find the maker for code “hsy” although we believe it is from the first run of holsters made by Femaru. It is identical to those made by Gustav Reinhardt in Berlin, code: jsd.
Femaru 37m Serial Numbers
The holster shows multiple scrapes in the finish and a few spots of surface loss. The stitching is all intact and there are no cracks in the leather at the hinge.
There is a small cut at the edge of the leather border at the top of the holster just above the magazine pouch. The canvas shows light wear at the muzzle, but the surface is intact with no fraying. Overall, the holster is in about Very Good to Fine condition.
Our Assessment: The Femaru Model 37 pistol is not common, as they were only made for a few years (1941-1944) in numbers less than 80,000. They were made for the Hungarian Army in.380 ACP and for the Germans in.32 ACP. The German version also differed in that it had a manual safety as well as a grip safety. There were two different German jhv/41 variants based on slide markings and a jhv/43 variant. Of the three variants, this 2nd variant jhv/41 pistol represents the highest number made – about 40,000. These pistols differed from most other WWII pistols in that the slides and frames were well polished before bluing, resulting in a high luster blued finish.
This is a great looking pistol in Excellent condition with thinning on front edge of the slide and a few handling marks. It includes a period holster and two blued finger extension magazines. This is a great find for the WWII weapons collector. Not that many were made, and to find one in this condition with holster and magazines is going to make some collector very happy.
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